看中文字幕时不太懂,就把英文字幕连起来看才发现很是精彩。上了年纪的中二都应该看看。
He is so young,but it is as if he has got to the end of his life without having lived it.His ambitions are dipped in bitterness.They have turned into sorrow and fear.He is extremely lonely.He does not sleep for more than two hours a night.He is unable to rest.He was desperately looking for happiness in something unreachable and security in what outside the rules.
What's wrong with that?The world around us is unbearable and miserable.Men are only after material security,nothing else.They are ready to lose their lives in order to achieve that.I want to be free!Free to look for happiness in the unreachable.But unlike my brother,I try to act upon my thoughts.That is why I abandoned this silly war that I was not able to prevent.I am not a coward!I hate lies.I want to live in truth,always.
Forgive me,Sire.Allow a common man to express his opnion.Your majesty said that he wants to live in truth.But I think what you meant is that you want to live as a free man following your instincts and your tastes without hypocrisy or lies.Am I right?In my opinion,the truth doesn't have anything to do with this search for the unreachable.When freedom is a privilege of the few,it does not have anything to do with real freedom,the same freedom that belongs to every man and that each of us has the right to hold on to.We live in a world where there are no innocents,where nobody has the right to judge anybody,I am speaking as a friend.The generosity that your majesty showed me when we were both younger gives me the courage to speak my mind as men do with each other.I am a soldier who was left alone on the battlefield at a time of danger and bitterness.But I do not feel neither contempt nor rancor for the king who abandoned me.Instead,I feel great pity.My king thinks he has made a brace decision,but he is mistaken if he thinks he can find happiness outside the rules and the duties of men.Those who love life cannot afford to search for the unreachable but have to be extremely careful.This is true even for a monarch.Even for a monarch,because the great power that a monarch has is limited by the boundaries of the society of which he is part.Who could ever be able to follow him outside those boundaries?Certainly not the weak and humble whose only worry is to find security,both material and moral.The same security your majesty was talking about with such contempt.The only ones following him will be those who see freedom as a search for pleasure beyond any moral boundary.No,you surely do not want this.Being followed only by despicable servants,exploiters,traders of illusions.No,I do not believe it.You Majesty cannot like such breed who would take advantage of his generosity and would try to deceive him.Why would a young person,who has a whole life ahead of him not be tempted to find a different reason to live?Even if it is difficult because it is the one of common people who accept mediocrity.It takes a lot of courage to accept mediocrity for somebody who is pursuing sublime ideals beyond this world.I know it.But it is the only way to be saved from a terrible loneliness.
Ludwig登位不久普奥战争,作为奥地利联盟的巴伐利亚战败,之后普法战争,巴伐利亚放弃独立地位加入普鲁士的“德意志王国”。
他对瓦格纳的音乐疯狂着迷,将扮演罗密欧的演员养在家中,喜欢夜晚,沉迷的世界,不问国事。
一家的精神敏感与情种,祖父因爱上芭蕾舞女?放弃王位,弟弟战争后精神错乱,所爱的表姐伊丽莎白(茜茜公主)被暗杀,茜茜公主的儿子殉情而死?新天鹅堡未得完工,Ludwig住进去才几天就被罢黜王位,之后自杀。
被囚禁在房间中,窗外下着雨,他打开音乐盒,门廊中脚步声靠近,门上的监视小口被打开又关上,Ludwig走过去看了一眼,苍白的脸上只剩下虚空。
于是半夜出来散步,他说喜欢夜晚和月亮,白天是男性的世界,理性的世界。他逃离白昼与理性,沉醉于感性与梦幻。如一位官员的辩护 “他对国家无害,只是对诸事不感兴趣”。 如果他不是国王,手里没有那么多的资源供他“真实”地活着,奢靡地把“自由”与“““享受”独揽怀中,也许的确无害。
一个人的自由是孤独的禁锢,一个人的享受是飘浮无着的虚空。最后在雨夜,人们点着火把找到他溺水的尸体,仰面,雨水落进微张的嘴里。(非常喜欢50-70年代不少意大利电影的结尾方式,戛然而止,生命卑微。)
尤其喜欢片头和片尾的配乐安排,简单的音符一下下敲击,与电影毫不急切的叙事方式相配合。从充满热情到失望颓靡,人物形象从帅气到邋遢,尤其犯牙病时躺在门窗紧闭的昏暗屋中那个形象,之后一直胡子拉渣眼眶泛红。
看1973的Ludwig II电影注意到了一个细节:
我特别喜欢茜茜得知索菲被路二拒绝以后去开导她那段,作为一个有个性的皇后茜茜真的对她又爱又恨,那种恨铁不成钢的感觉,我甚至都想把这段bgm换成ich göher nur mir 了。茜茜对她说,你作为一个女人你为什么不首先向他证明你可以独立,你可以周游世界而不是被关在这个小小的宫廷里,他要是抛弃你你先抛弃他好了。然后镜头一转茜茜无奈又惆怅地捂住嘴望向天空,这时她无名指上的戒指闪闪发光,镜头再一切换两个女人抱在一起大哭。我看得特别感慨,茜茜想要的的确是自由,但是她身为皇后实际上无时无刻不被囚禁在枷锁里。因为她同样了解路二和索菲,所以自己也没有更好的选择。作为女人,她这样开导索菲无非是想把自由的希望寄托于她。因为事实上,他们三个谁也没有获得自由罢了。
如果你听特里斯坦与伊索尔德,就会明白我对你的爱。
Helmut Berg是我心目中吸血鬼扮演者的不二人选;但其实。。。我是被这部片子里路德维希的弟弟给秒了~
千秋万世名,寂寞身后事。卿本多情,奈何薄命。
3h46min好长的片子。湖中洗澡的少年和otto亲王符合纳粹美学:纯种雅利安teenageboy真乃人间绝色,难怪30年代前柏林是欧洲GAY都!!!
Thomas Mann the writer, Visconti the director, Helmut Berger the actor, are all the King's gaymen that create great artwork. But then I am only sad. It is not that I don't understand this apparently to many people incomprehensible madness, it is perhaps that I don't want to.
祈祷你像英勇的禁卫军,动也不动的守护爱情
我一直坚信Richard Wagner才是他的最爱
简而言之就是一见渣男误终身。本来路德维希虽然不靠谱,也不算祸害。但自从遇到瓦格纳,命运的齿轮就挡不住地往亡国昏君的方向狂转了。特喜欢他在天鹅堡和一群侍卫喝得烂醉,然后他用充满情欲的眼神看裸体侍卫那段。
HB那双眼,像氤氲的蓝色大海。喜欢这电影,不仅为红颜,华景,长镜头,也为看出镜头后那些悄悄流淌的情感——脆弱,神经质,暗夜里紧扭双手无声啜泣,像跌进蛛网的飞蛾,挣扎得让我心疼 。路德维希是夕阳,维斯康蒂是黄昏,HB是黄昏里最后一抹余晖,然后就都寂灭了
大家居然都讲意大利语,这本来就够komisch的了!字幕翻译得就更奇怪,经常前言不搭后语,专有名词的翻译尤其晕,比如林德霍夫宫被译成林塔布普城,赫尔伦基姆泽宫被译成贝克姆,明明是伊丽莎白却被译成埃里查贝多,真是让人郁闷,掀桌!整个漫长的3小时58分看下来搞得我完全没有安全感
巴伐利亚版宋徽宗,袁四爷的视角重述霸王别姬。瓦格纳真乃吃软饭界的大神:啃老傍贵妇,吃到君王掏空国库。亲爱的妻子,我要赐给你世上最绝妙的礼物:带你去见瓦格纳。不堪生活之重压时,艺术是逃避的出口。跨越生死与兴衰,这才是伟大的艺术。我们是凡夫俗子,要赞助瓦格纳的艺术。
4 hrs~~~, really tested my patience
个人觉得Helmut Berger同时像两个帅哥:阿兰德龙和约翰DEEP,同时又有男同性恋特有的妖媚和优雅。。。他将路德维希刻画的非常到位,而且是位为了电影可以自毁形象的好演员。。。
迷恋的艺术,玩物丧志。那一个天鹅毛飘落的年代,在那新的城堡里。爱情记录着对您永恒的爱。您的路德维希。然后慢慢暗淡下来,衰弱的神经
字幕烂了点儿。另:这是四个小时的闷片啊!t4c356b37f
字幕和画质略影响观感。维斯康蒂的每部电影都流露着挽歌气质。
这部电影的宗旨其实就是说:一个人如果太文艺了,总归是不能在现实世界里生存的。君王是如此,我们普通人也是如此。
我从来没有觉得原来Helmut Berger那么那么帅!!神马强尼戴普都弱爆了好嘛!!!anyway……最终Ludwig还是弯的哇
这片子里有最美的Helmut Berger。
就像是为了成全维斯康蒂,路德维希二世过完了他丰富的一生。